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ScotzMan
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can people please post resullts of a tracert to our servers
so we can see if theres a problem.
Start -> run -> type CMD and press return
then type
tracert 84.18.199.115
copy the results and paste them here.
like so
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\James O'Neill>tracert 84.18.199.115
Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 20 ms 51 ms 44 ms 10.125.176.1
3 17 ms 20 ms 41 ms 80.195.0.5
4 128 ms 84 ms 74 ms pc-62-30-251-2-ro.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.251.2]
5 74 ms 80 ms 29 ms 194.117.136.209
6 25 ms 16 ms 27 ms 194.117.136.178
7 36 ms 25 ms 27 ms tele1-know-rab.telewest.net [194.117.136.158]
8 43 ms 38 ms 24 ms xpe.999.gi0-3.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [217.79.160
.108]
9 28 ms 32 ms 28 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\James O'Neill>
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Microsoft Windows XP [Versjon 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corporation
C:\Documents and Settings\Grizzler>tracert 84.18.199.115
Sporer rute til 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over maksimalt 30 hopp:
1 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms 81.26.46.dslcustomer.pcsupport.no [81.26.46.225]
2 32 ms 31 ms 37 ms 81.26.62.dslcustomer.pcsupport.no [81.26.62.25]
3 54 ms 41 ms 50 ms 7.cv-7.cr1.ulla.pcsupport.no [81.26.60.81]
4 40 ms 64 ms 48 ms 9.cv-9.cr1.aal.pcsupport.no [81.26.60.19]
5 47 ms 45 ms 56 ms c510084B2.inet.catch.no [81.0.132.178]
6 52 ms 52 ms 48 ms ge-0-0-0-99.cr1.br.no.catchbone.net [193.75.3.18
1]
7 62 ms 56 ms 58 ms c2488-so-0-3-0.cr1.osls.catchbone.net [193.75.3.
102]
8 186 ms 174 ms 62 ms ge-0-3-0.br4.osls.no.catchbone.net [193.75.3.5]
9 64 ms 52 ms 52 ms so-2-2-0-zar1.ose.cw.net [208.173.218.81]
10 52 ms 54 ms 56 ms ge-3-2-0-ycr1.ose.cw.net [208.173.218.145]
11 63 ms 62 ms 72 ms so-0-0-0-ycr1.cpi.cw.net [208.173.216.17]
12 64 ms 84 ms 70 ms ge-0-1-0-ycr2.cpi.cw.net [195.2.10.170]
13 87 ms 80 ms 74 ms so-2-0-0-bcr3.amd.cw.net [208.173.211.233]
14 81 ms 80 ms 87 ms so-1-0-0-zcr2.amt.cw.net [208.173.209.198]
15 73 ms 74 ms 83 ms ge-2-1-0-zcr1.amt.cw.net [208.173.220.129]
16 * * * Forespørsel avbrutt.
17 97 ms 98 ms 83 ms so-2-0-0.lon12.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.81.149]
18 105 ms 83 ms 97 ms catalyst2-gw.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.6]
19 96 ms 88 ms 89 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
Søking fullført.
C:\Documents and Settings\Grizzler>
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Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.7.1
2 15 ms 17 ms 16 ms brnt-bam-1.inet.ntl.com [62.253.189.142]
3 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms brnt-t2core-b-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com [213.105.199.133]
4 16 ms 17 ms 16 ms bre-bb-b-so-520-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.130]
5 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
6 * 41 ms 41 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106] <---- problem
7 33 ms 34 ms 33 ms xpe.999.gi0-3.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [217.79.160.108]
8 42 ms 43 ms 43 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
Trace complete.
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Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.7.1
2 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms brnt-bam-1.inet.ntl.com [62.253.189.142]
3 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms brnt-t2core-b-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com [213.105.199.133]
4 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms bre-bb-b-so-520-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.130]
5 16 ms 17 ms 17 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
6 41 ms 42 ms 99 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106] <--- Problem
7 33 ms 34 ms 34 ms xpe.999.gi0-3.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [217.79.160.108]
8 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
Trace complete.
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Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 28 ms 28 ms 21 ms 10.99.64.1
2 237 ms 199 ms 206 ms gsr01-fn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.144.129]
3 41 ms 72 ms 57 ms pc-62-30-245-45-do.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.245.4
5]
4 64 ms 55 ms 76 ms pc-62-30-245-18-do.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.245.1
8]
5 87 ms 117 ms 171 ms edi-gat-pos.telewest.net [194.117.136.9]
6 238 ms 101 ms 92 ms 194.117.136.209
7 229 ms 199 ms 230 ms 194.117.136.178
8 50 ms 213 ms 49 ms tele1-know-rab.telewest.net [194.117.136.158]
9 67 ms 33 ms 36 ms xpe.999.gi0-3.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [217.79.160
.108]
10 30 ms 81 ms 48 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
Trace complete.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM sexy, i love telewest.
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>tracert 84.18.199.115
Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 9 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 42 ms 7 ms 39 ms 10.113.144.1
3 8 ms 10 ms 16 ms nrwh-t2cam1-a-ge94.inet.ntl.com [81.100.32.9]
4 13 ms 12 ms 9 ms pete-t2core-a-pos71.inet.ntl.com [80.3.129.9]
5 13 ms 83 ms 42 ms nth-bb-a-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.225]
6 18 ms 21 ms 16 ms gfd-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.98]
7 20 ms 17 ms 55 ms bre-bb-a-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.149]
8 37 ms 39 ms 38 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]
9 32 ms 31 ms 34 ms xpe.999.gi0-3.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [217.79.160
.108]
10 40 ms 41 ms 39 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>
Wots this meen lol ?
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it means the problem is between NTL and Redbus (our datacentre)
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is there anything that can be done ?
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i can have a word with ultraserve
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ScotzMan
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NTL and Ultraserves ISP, not redbus themselves.
who do they use anyway?
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Adrian Jones>tracert 84.18.199.115
Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 26 ms 30 ms 30 ms esr3.reading4.broadband.bt.net [217.41.220.142]
2 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms 217.41.220.13
3 31 ms 30 ms 31 ms 217.41.169.25
4 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms 217.41.169.66
5 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms 217.41.169.118
6 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms 217.41.169.38
7 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms 213.120.193.34
8 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms core1-pos12-1.reading.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.0.19
7]
9 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms core1-pos13-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.238
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10 31 ms 31 ms 30 ms core1-pos10-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.25
4]
11 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms linx-gw1.enta.net [195.66.226.151]
12 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms telehouse-east.core.enta.net [84.45.193.195]
13 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms entanet.gi0-2.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [62.249.255
.14]
14 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\Adrian Jones>
There ya go.
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im still non the wiser , is it a ntl prob or a server prob and either way wot does this meen in plain english ?
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Judging from all the spiking tracert's i can see here proves it is not a problem with the ultra-serve network. The way ISP's all work and connect together differs. They use parts of other companies and more or less 'piggy back' off one another. The tracert from greg:
1 28 ms 28 ms 21 ms 10.99.64.1
2 237 ms 199 ms 206 ms gsr01-fn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.144.129]
3 41 ms 72 ms 57 ms pc-62-30-245-45-do.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.245.4
5]
4 64 ms 55 ms 76 ms pc-62-30-245-18-do.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.245.1
8]
5 87 ms 117 ms 171 ms edi-gat-pos.telewest.net [194.117.136.9]
6 238 ms 101 ms 92 ms 194.117.136.209
7 229 ms 199 ms 230 ms 194.117.136.178
8 50 ms 213 ms 49 ms tele1-know-rab.telewest.net [194.117.136.158]
9 67 ms 33 ms 36 ms xpe.999.gi0-3.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [217.79.160
.108]
10 30 ms 81 ms 48 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
shows that the problem starts at a blueyonder router. HIS ping to that router spikes before he gets past that to the Ultra-Serve network.
Likewise with scotman:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 20 ms 51 ms 44 ms 10.125.176.1
3 17 ms 20 ms 41 ms 80.195.0.5
4 128 ms 84 ms 74 ms pc-62-30-251-2-ro.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.251.2]
5 74 ms 80 ms 29 ms 194.117.136.209
6 25 ms 16 ms 27 ms 194.117.136.178
7 36 ms 25 ms 27 ms tele1-know-rab.telewest.net [194.117.136.158]
8 43 ms 38 ms 24 ms xpe.999.gi0-3.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [217.79.160
.108]
9 28 ms 32 ms 28 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
As soon as it hits the BY router, it starts going supercallafredgalisticexpialladocious. Anyone on Blueyonder or telewest will probably experience the same, as the companies are one in the same. Because NTL have now merged with Telewest, i dont know what difference this now makes to their trafffic routes.
Unfortunately this is not a problem Ultra-Serve can fix. Its one of these things that occasionally happens when parts of a network get heavy load or something goes pop. Also known as 'Transient Network Problems'.
Im sure it will sort itself out soon,
Leon Ost (Munkeh)
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seems to be ok during the day and early mornings only starts losing packets after 5pm.
Edited by |SFH|gama_k on 19 October 2005 at 10:28pm
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munkeh
well given that both Telewest and NTL are upgrading there networks in ready for there merger etc, im not surprised people on Telewest and NTL having problems, but Telewest are due to finish upgrades here in Edinburgh 2moro, so heres hoping :P
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since network changes last night loss and choke havd cleared up new route to server with 15 hops
Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.7.1
2 11 ms 10 ms 9 ms brhm-bam-2.inet.ntl.com [194.145.148.3]
3 14 ms 11 ms 11 ms brhm-t2core-b-ge-wan74.inet.ntl.com [213.106.231.213]
4 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms bir-bb-b-so-710-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.149]
5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms bir-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.153]
6 15 ms 13 ms 21 ms man-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.134]
7 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms mana-ic-1-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.74]
8 20 ms 19 ms 18 ms 212.121.34.18
9 21 ms 19 ms 20 ms rt001mcc.uk.vianw.net [195.102.254.61]
10 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms p6-2.th-br1.rtr.uk.netscalibur.net [195.102.254.29]
11 21 ms 19 ms 20 ms t40-cr1-ge-6-1.router.uk.clara.net [195.8.68.117]
12 20 ms 21 ms 19 ms t40-dr1-ge-0-1.router.uk.clara.net [195.8.68.70]
13 25 ms 21 ms 23 ms f6-0-ahab.router.uk.clara.net [213.253.16.3]
14 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms clara.fa1-0.rt1.thdo.catalyst2.net [213.253.51.198]
15 19 ms 20 ms 21 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
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yay!
was that a telewest / ntl network change?
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Looks like my isp has only 15 hops aswell now.. but I had like 140 ping on the server today.. so I dunno whats happening.. going to do a reboot to check if that helps..
1 78 ms 90 ms 54 ms 81.26.46.dslcustomer.pcsupport.no [81.26.46.225]
2 37 ms 33 ms 41 ms 81.26.62.dslcustomer.pcsupport.no [81.26.62.25]
3 111 ms 100 ms 56 ms 7.cv-7.cr1.ulla.pcsupport.no [81.26.60.81]
4 55 ms 52 ms 52 ms 9.cv-9.cr1.aal.pcsupport.no [81.26.60.19]
5 116 ms 92 ms 74 ms 80-202-2-225.dd.nextgentel.com [80.202.2.225]
6 60 ms 66 ms 60 ms 80-202-2-5.dd.nextgentel.com [80.202.2.5]
7 172 ms 105 ms 70 ms 217-13-0-182.dd.nextgentel.com [217.13.0.182]
8 65 ms 64 ms 62 ms 217-13-0-10.dd.nextgentel.com [217.13.0.10]
9 69 ms 62 ms 68 ms 217-13-6-145.dd.nextgentel.com [217.13.6.145]
10 87 ms 66 ms 89 ms so-5-0-0.ar1.OSL1.gblx.net [64.215.182.129]
11 79 ms 86 ms 145 ms so7-0-0-2488M.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [67.17.79.18]
12 92 ms 96 ms 93 ms netnod-a.ip.tiscali.net [194.68.123.43]
13 112 ms 113 ms 123 ms so-2-0-0.lon12.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.81.149]
14 111 ms 107 ms 111 ms catalyst2-gw.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.6]
15 119 ms 113 ms 138 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>tracert 84.18.199.115
Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 8 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 16 ms 11 ms 23 ms 10.113.144.1
3 9 ms 13 ms 7 ms nrwh-t2cam1-a-ge94.inet.ntl.com [81.100.32.9]
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms pete-t2core-a-pos71.inet.ntl.com [80.3.129.9]
5 12 ms 16 ms 12 ms nth-bb-a-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.225]
6 41 ms 35 ms 18 ms gfd-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.98]
7 17 ms 25 ms 56 ms gfd-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.5]
8 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms tele-ic-1-so-110-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.78]
9 19 ms 17 ms 18 ms t40-br2-ge-5-1.router.uk.clara.net [195.66.224.6
6]
10 19 ms 21 ms 19 ms t40-cr2-ge-4-0.router.uk.clara.net [195.8.86.146
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11 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms t40-dr2-ge-0-1.router.uk.clara.net [195.8.86.90]
12 20 ms 50 ms 20 ms f4-1-ahab.router.uk.clara.net [213.253.16.19]
13 29 ms 24 ms 20 ms clara.fa1-0.rt1.thdo.catalyst2.net [213.253.51.1
98]
14 20 ms 19 ms 18 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jamie>tracert 84.18.199.115
Tracing route to 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.18.199.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 16 ms 17 ms 15 ms ge0-1.lns2-c11.telh.planet.net.uk [62.25.198.140
]
2 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge1-1.pbr-1.telh.as5388.net [62.25.198.130]
3 15 ms 15 ms 17 ms pos1-0.ber-1.r18.telc.as5388.net [195.92.55.156]
4 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms linx-gw1.enta.net [195.66.226.151]
5 17 ms 17 ms 15 ms telehouse-east.core.enta.net [84.45.193.195]
6 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms entanet.gi0-2.rt0.thdo.catalyst2.net [62.249.255
.14]
7 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms fe1-pix1gw.thdo.catalyst2.com [213.230.201.1]
8 19 ms 17 ms 19 ms 84-18-199-115.no-reverse-yet.catalyst2.com [84.1
8.199.115]
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\Jamie>
WHATS THIS MEAN
IS THIS ANY GOOD OR WHAT?
Edited by Mash-Tin_UK on 07 November 2005 at 2:56pm
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